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« on: February 03, 2006, 03:54:12 pm »

I am wondering about the viability of setting up some new categories. The one's that are there are fine, but some things just are lacking:

House and Home (Interer design, etc.)

Children (I see there is a "people and lifestyle" but wouldn't it be better to have a separate category for children?)

Education

Vintage

I also have been wondering how much trouble it would be to have an "Exclusives" category - RF images that can only be found on MicroStockPhoto.

The price could be the same, though photographers might not like to have their stuff exclusive for the same price - personally I would put some stuff in the exclusive category if would help to bring in the clients and keep bringing them back. Even if they just come to look - they might like what's there and start looking through the rest of the categories.

If upping the price a little (say to $3.00) didn't create a nightmare, then that could be an option.

I'm not sure if they still do it, and I can't remember if there was a reward for doing it, but Canstock used to do that - you had the option when uploading whether or not to make it exclusive.
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2006, 11:15:24 pm »

You make some good suggestions there and it is easy to add new categories.  I am looking at the categories as it happens because they could definitely be better but my initial idea was not to have categories at all.

What happened was a bit of a compromise between the two. It would be a bit of work recategorising existing images to make the categories remain useful but not impossible.

The exclusive images sounds like a good idea and I wonder what the response to that would be at this early stage?

Would many people want to commit even a few images exclusively given that we are still very new with a small library at this time? I don't want to go down the rout of having exclusivity from photographers but what do others feel about some images being exclusive?
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2006, 01:20:08 pm »

Hi all,

Whilst I am very new to RF photography (only just starting to build up a portfolio) I think the new catergories suggest look quite good, and I would be happy to put some photos in an exclusive catergory - anything to give buyers a reason to keep coming back.  wink

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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2006, 03:31:09 pm »

I actually have a few that aren't posted on other sites already - simply my choice because I like to keep a few "site specific" at each place, but I'd have no problem putting some in exclusive. I have a few with other sites too.

These are ones that are already specific to MSP (some of them have two versions)

http://www.microstockphoto.com/details.php?gid=&sgid=&pid=9039
http://www.microstockphoto.com/details.php?gid=&sgid=&pid=9004
http://www.microstockphoto.com/details.php?gid=&sgid=&pid=9002
http://www.microstockphoto.com/details.php?gid=&sgid=&pid=7972
http://www.microstockphoto.com/details.php?gid=&sgid=&pid=7970
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2006, 03:23:55 pm »

I wouldn't mind putting up a few exclusive.
With an option, say of a few months, if no sales to be able to return them to non-exclusive.
I only add this because I made a few exclusive at Canstock and had no sales or views.
Changed them to non exclusive and added them here.
Within a few days had a sale here.

Would be nice to get a little extra income if it is exclusive but not essential
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2006, 11:30:13 pm »

I haven't forgotten this thread. Just giving it some thought.
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2006, 04:13:36 am »

John,
In light of what's happening at another site... DT to be exact.... I have to say that talk about exclusive anything is a cold subject.......

Realizing that each site has it's own group of buyers.... that's what makes microstock work for photographers... the fact that they can have their photos on a number of site, get more exposure, and make a fair amount of money between all of them....

to go exclusive is to shoot yourself in the foot from my point of view....
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2006, 09:55:59 am »

Well we aren't talking about going totally exclusive benny - just having a small gallery of exclusive images available, much like the "free images" available here. It's a small gallery, but it might bring in more sales. If someone grabs your free image and they like the quality of your work, they might just come back and see what else you've got.  (And before anyone says we shouldn't give away images I can tell yout that I have gained a very professional hard copy portfolio from some of my free images. That's very useful to have when you are standing in front of a client in his office who wants to see your work in use. I pull out one of the magazines or books and show him.)

The exclusive gallery would be similar - not large.

If you can only get a certain picture at this site, you have to come back and buy if from this site - you can't go to SS because you've got a subscription (or somewhere else) and buy the same one because it isn't there.

I already keep a few images (see my list above - it's only a few) exclusive to each site (except for SS) in an effort to help generate sales at those sites - particularly the new sites.

It could be a totally separate little category, right under "Free Images" in the listing. Maybe it only has a dozen or two dozen images in total. I don't see how that would create a problem for anyone. No one is saying each person would have to contribute to that gallery.

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Well, at this point, that's the problem isn't it? If you want a site you sell at to be successful, you have to have the buyers.

The exclusive gallery suggestion was an effort to help get some buyers here  cheesy  not to depreciate the photogs galleries.

When I join a site like this I look at it as a bit of a partnership and anything I can do to generate sales at that site, or to help try and generate sales, is going to benefit me too.

At places like SS I don't make suggestions simply because they already have plenty of clients buying from them. I don't have to do anything there except produce marketable images.

But I believe that I should take responsibility for everything I do, including generating sales anyway I can. I'm the one whose ultimately responsible for my success or lack of it, so if I sit back and do nothing, then I should expect nothing.

Somebody else owns each site - sure, it's not my site and I guess I don't have to participate in anything - just like at SS.  Well at SS I feel like I am working for them, and not for me.  And while some photogs there think SS is working for them, they aren't. I'd rather see success coming to places like this where the photographers' suggestions are given consideration and where if I upload a landscape or floral I am not told they aren't stock, where my work is judged on photographic technique or skill, not on what's in the picture.

A lot of new stock sites end up failing - probably for lots of reasons, but among those reasons will be things like lack of proper marketing and photographer's who just want to stick up their photos and expect the site to do everything for them. If a site I join fails, I don't want feel like I didn't do my part in supporting them.

In the end it will have to be John who decides what's useful to the site and what's not. Maybe an exclusive gallery isn't something he thinks will help, but at least he listens to us, which is more than I can say for a few other places I am at  cheesy [/size]
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2006, 01:54:00 pm »

You make some good points Grace.....
I guess a special section on the site wouldn't hurt......

Like you mentioned about other sites and the "not stock" comment they give as a rejection reason.....  that automatically causes some of my shots  to be exclusive at some sites.... even though it wasn't planned that way  rolleyes

I guess I'll have to go through my stuff and figure out which ones are already exclusive  wink
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